could not resist this, I have been a very happy user of purelymail but this is just so tempting that I had to get it. I will keep using purelymail for my addy.io relay and use namecrane for my main mail etc, just need to get past the pending
Impersonate isn't supported outside of the super administrators (us). I'll be implementing this feature inside of the CraneMail portal and expect to have it available in the next day or so.
It won't be integrated into Smartermail's portal itself.
@NameCrane said:
I think it's the perfect use case for personal/family email and small businesses. I'm similar on my personal email - 99% inbound, and then I send or need to reply via email to a few things each month.
That was pretty much my reasoning. Our company is opening a bunch of subsidiaries this upcoming year (small companies with 3 or 4 people sharing IP). It's all specific small volume stuff, and I was planning to run it through something like zoho or email alias it.
But I saw the post, I trust Francisco, and $10/year is really very little compared to domain renewal costs, server costs, and our Google Admin cost is like 250/month. So why not spend a small bit to set it up right from the get go. It's really very affordable as provided, and quite generous as it is. I'm pretty excited to start setting it up, most likely in January.
@NameCrane said:
I think it's the perfect use case for personal/family email and small businesses. I'm similar on my personal email - 99% inbound, and then I send or need to reply via email to a few things each month.
That was pretty much my reasoning. Our company is opening a bunch of subsidiaries this upcoming year (small companies with 3 or 4 people sharing IP). It's all specific small volume stuff, and I was planning to run it through something like zoho or email alias it.
But I saw the post, I trust Francisco, and $10/year is really very little compared to domain renewal costs, server costs, and our Google Admin cost is like 250/month. So why not spend a small bit to set it up right from the get go. It's really very affordable as provided, and quite generous as it is. I'm pretty excited to start setting it up, most likely in January.
One of the goals of this product was to meet 90%+ of the needs of people using gsuite, o365, zoho, etc, without the eye watering price.
No, we aren’t featured parity, but that’s ok since much of the market doesn’t need every little thing those platforms offer. Does everyone need intune and all that? Hell no, not even most businesses will use all of that.
In time I hope we can fill that gap in the market for many and help them save literally thousands a year. The stories I’ve been hearing from some of the beta users about their work paying $1000/m for o365 is insane.
@Francisco said:
One of the goals of this product was to meet 90%+ of the needs of people using gsuite, o365, zoho, etc, without the eye watering price.
I think you have hit that goal well.. I am not (yet) signed up but shared the info across to a few startup founders... Base tier of Zoho workspace (cheapest of the three) for 5 users/ single domain / 100 GB storage + office suite etc... is nearly 100 US Dollars/ year. We use Zoho W., and CraneMail could be a good backup system / plan B.
Many of the startup founders had the GSuite/ MS Office 1 year "complimentary" plans from startup incubators, etc... and when the full price hit, the sticker shock was quite... shocking.
Price is one factor, functionality was another (Onlyoffice has its learning curve, slow even on VPN for many locations in India) last but not the least- the server location... unless regulation requires server to be located in country (healthcare, financial services for sure), for others this is a good plan, better once Europe location goes live.
@NameCrane said:
Dammit. I swear I hit offers section. Sorry.
Fixed
p.s. nice erection
Thank you for correcting the error.
maybe @francisco will be gracious enough to help me get out of the usa lifetimeaccout so i can wait for the emaillifetime that is also offered in europe.
Also bought because of @Francisco and in pending. I was so excited that I let my verification email lapse. How can I get a new one sent? Didn't see anything in the WHMCS panel to do so.
Does SmarterMail come with an API? Would like to see if there are ways to create email accounts/aliases without using the web UI.
@NameCrane said: WebDAV support is still being developed but will be available in the future, so you can utilize the storage with rClone and other desktop sync tools.
is this feature being developed in house, or by SmarterTools?
@geo said:
Also bought because of @Francisco and in pending. I was so excited that I let my verification email lapse. How can I get a new one sent? Didn't see anything in the WHMCS panel to do so.
Karen or I will usually send another when processing orders if you haven't verified already.
@ragtop4 said:
Is it possible to setup a sub domain for catchall?
Any mail that goes to a non-existing mailbox on @spam.domain.com gets forwarded to [email protected]
You can manually add domain aliases to the account, so you could create an alias for sub.domain.com (without using up 1 of the 15 primary domains), and then configure a catchall alias for that subdomain towards one of the mailboxes.
Even standard cPanel or DA is able to do that bro.
And that's always an option. Our cPanel and DA plans come with SpamExperts as well, and mail via our own filtering relays/IPs - so you could do what you want there.
CraneMail featureset includes stuff like fetching mail from other inboxes and 'send as' via their SMTP. So you can combine it with any other email account on hosting with us or another provider, and get the benefits of the GUI / having all your mail in one place.
The fetch mail stuff functions similar to how people set it up with gmail - so pull via POP (or IMAP) and replies get fed via that account's SMTP details.
while I am still waiting for my pending order I have a few questions to ask the people that have got theirs so far.
can I set the destination of a domain I added to the service to send to the MX route rather than the internal mailboxes, (e.g. adding my addy.io instance domain to the service, to use as a relay for sending emails only) purelymail does allow me to do this.
can I add whole domains to a whitelist of SpamExperts? for the same reason above.
@dgc1980 said:
while I am still waiting for my pending order I have a few questions to ask the people that have got theirs so far.
can I set the destination of a domain I added to the service to send to the MX route rather than the internal mailboxes, (e.g. adding my addy.io instance domain to the service, to use as a relay for sending emails only) purelymail does allow me to do this.
can I add whole domains to a whitelist of SpamExperts? for the same reason above.
We support split domains if that’s what you mean? Basically any inbox that’s not local gets yeeted to the next Mx you specify.
With some assistance from Mike, I have had my account activated!
I am currently tinkering around with the system, SmarterMail is a lot different to the ease of use of PurelyMail but it seems to have a lot of features.
I have not been able to get the email migration working from purelymail. it seems to be reporting invalid user details each time. changed password a few times, so I am currently migrating using imapsync (cya in about 4hours for 3.5GB)
it seems that catch-all is disabled by default for domains, I will be submitting a ticket later to enable this.
catch all is enabled by default, I was looking in the wrong place
it does not seem using a domain as a relay is an option, because if you add a domain and send email between accounts to the domains, it ignores the MX records if a domain is hosted within the system
I will be playing around with more of the features tomorrow.
@dgc1980 said:
With some assistance from Mike, I have had my account activated!
I am currently tinkering around with the system, SmarterMail is a lot different to the ease of use of PurelyMail but it seems to have a lot of features.
I have not been able to get the email migration working from purelymail. it seems to be reporting invalid user details each time. changed password a few times, so I am currently migrating using imapsync (cya in about 4hours for 3.5GB)
it seems that catch-all is disabled by default for domains, I will be submitting a ticket later to enable this.
catch all is enabled by default, I was looking in the wrong place
it does not seem using a domain as a relay is an option, because if you add a domain and send email between accounts to the domains, it ignores the MX records if a domain is hosted within the system
I will be playing around with more of the features tomorrow.
Check the split domains thing I mentioned. I think you can force it to always be remote.
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could not resist this, I have been a very happy user of purelymail but this is just so tempting that I had to get it. I will keep using purelymail for my addy.io relay and use namecrane for my main mail etc, just need to get past the pending
@NameCrane do you have MS Exchange (MAPI) services enabled on your SmarterMail?
Does impersonate user feature is only limited to resellers? @NameCrane
Yes. We don't have ActiveSync as that's a 'per inbox, per year' cost.
Impersonate isn't supported outside of the super administrators (us). I'll be implementing this feature inside of the CraneMail portal and expect to have it available in the next day or so.
It won't be integrated into Smartermail's portal itself.
Francisco
@Francisco are most orders manually approved? both my order and a friends order are pending.
My friends service is now activated and he purchased an hour after me due to my recommendation lol.
Are they more attractive?
I think so, I should go to bed and get some beauty sleep to help my chances.
See? You might be smarter. Toodloo!
That was pretty much my reasoning. Our company is opening a bunch of subsidiaries this upcoming year (small companies with 3 or 4 people sharing IP). It's all specific small volume stuff, and I was planning to run it through something like zoho or email alias it.
But I saw the post, I trust Francisco, and $10/year is really very little compared to domain renewal costs, server costs, and our Google Admin cost is like 250/month. So why not spend a small bit to set it up right from the get go. It's really very affordable as provided, and quite generous as it is. I'm pretty excited to start setting it up, most likely in January.
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Is it possible to setup a sub domain for catchall?
Any mail that goes to a non-existing mailbox on @spam.domain.com gets forwarded to [email protected]
Ooooooh, that would be great!
Even standard cPanel or DA is able to do that bro.
https://microlxc.net/
One of the goals of this product was to meet 90%+ of the needs of people using gsuite, o365, zoho, etc, without the eye watering price.
No, we aren’t featured parity, but that’s ok since much of the market doesn’t need every little thing those platforms offer. Does everyone need intune and all that? Hell no, not even most businesses will use all of that.
In time I hope we can fill that gap in the market for many and help them save literally thousands a year. The stories I’ve been hearing from some of the beta users about their work paying $1000/m for o365 is insane.
Francisco
I think you have hit that goal well.. I am not (yet) signed up but shared the info across to a few startup founders... Base tier of Zoho workspace (cheapest of the three) for 5 users/ single domain / 100 GB storage + office suite etc... is nearly 100 US Dollars/ year. We use Zoho W., and CraneMail could be a good backup system / plan B.
Many of the startup founders had the GSuite/ MS Office 1 year "complimentary" plans from startup incubators, etc... and when the full price hit, the sticker shock was quite... shocking.
Price is one factor, functionality was another (Onlyoffice has its learning curve, slow even on VPN for many locations in India) last but not the least- the server location... unless regulation requires server to be located in country (healthcare, financial services for sure), for others this is a good plan, better once Europe location goes live.
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Thank you for correcting the error.
maybe @francisco will be gracious enough to help me get out of the usa lifetimeaccout so i can wait for the emaillifetime that is also offered in europe.
didnt work, I got hit with the ugly stick in my sleep
Also bought because of @Francisco and in pending. I was so excited that I let my verification email lapse. How can I get a new one sent? Didn't see anything in the WHMCS panel to do so.
Does SmarterMail come with an API? Would like to see if there are ways to create email accounts/aliases without using the web UI.
Thanks!
is this feature being developed in house, or by SmarterTools?
Yes, if you can do it in the WebUI, you can do it on the API. The webUI uses the same API.
https://mail.smartertools.com/Documentation/api#/reference/SmarterMail.Web.Api.SystemAdminSettingsController
The devs claim they're working on WebDAV support for File Storage.
We're personally actively working on adding support directly into rclone.
Francisco
Lovely
Karen or I will usually send another when processing orders if you haven't verified already.
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You can manually add domain aliases to the account, so you could create an alias for
sub.domain.com(without using up 1 of the 15 primary domains), and then configure a catchall alias for that subdomain towards one of the mailboxes.And that's always an option. Our cPanel and DA plans come with SpamExperts as well, and mail via our own filtering relays/IPs - so you could do what you want there.
CraneMail featureset includes stuff like fetching mail from other inboxes and 'send as' via their SMTP. So you can combine it with any other email account on hosting with us or another provider, and get the benefits of the GUI / having all your mail in one place.
The fetch mail stuff functions similar to how people set it up with gmail - so pull via POP (or IMAP) and replies get fed via that account's SMTP details.
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while I am still waiting for my pending order I have a few questions to ask the people that have got theirs so far.
can I set the destination of a domain I added to the service to send to the MX route rather than the internal mailboxes, (e.g. adding my addy.io instance domain to the service, to use as a relay for sending emails only) purelymail does allow me to do this.
can I add whole domains to a whitelist of SpamExperts? for the same reason above.
We support split domains if that’s what you mean? Basically any inbox that’s not local gets yeeted to the next Mx you specify.
Yes you can whitelist entire domains in SE.
Francisco
With some assistance from Mike, I have had my account activated!
I am currently tinkering around with the system, SmarterMail is a lot different to the ease of use of PurelyMail but it seems to have a lot of features.
I have not been able to get the email migration working from purelymail. it seems to be reporting invalid user details each time. changed password a few times, so I am currently migrating using imapsync (cya in about 4hours for 3.5GB)
it seems that catch-all is disabled by default for domains, I will be submitting a ticket later to enable this.
catch all is enabled by default, I was looking in the wrong place
it does not seem using a domain as a relay is an option, because if you add a domain and send email between accounts to the domains, it ignores the MX records if a domain is hosted within the system
I will be playing around with more of the features tomorrow.
Check the split domains thing I mentioned. I think you can force it to always be remote.
Francisco
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How long will this offer be available? Partically CraneMail BF 100G - $10 / year, $20 / 3 years? Will be up tomorrow?