@c1vhosting has had the provder tag removed pending him giving people what they paid for without having to jump through hoops. In other words people get the IPs they paid for without asking for them.
@AuroraZero said: @c1vhosting has had the provder tag removed pending him giving people what they paid for without having to jump through hoops. In other words people get the IPs they paid for without asking for them.
@AuroraZero said: @c1vhosting has had the provder tag removed pending him giving people what they paid for without having to jump through hoops. In other words people get the IPs they paid for without asking for them.
@AuroraZero said: @c1vhosting has had the provder tag removed pending him giving people what they paid for without having to jump through hoops. In other words people get the IPs they paid for without asking for them.
I'm confused to a great degree about the standards of "remove", simply because @virmach did what @c1v did at a larger scale (unstable service, change of IP, etc) and much more people complaining about @virmach, but its provider tag is intact.
@AuroraZero said: @c1vhosting has had the provder tag removed pending him giving people what they paid for without having to jump through hoops. In other words people get the IPs they paid for without asking for them.
I'm confused to a great degree about the standards of "remove", simply because @virmach did what @c1v did at a larger scale (unstable service, change of IP, etc) and much more people complaining about @virmach, but its provider tag is intact.
Anyway, so long and thanks for all the fish.
Once again this decision was reached by the entire staff. I was not staff at that time. I have no clue what went on behind the scenes then.
Damned near everything I have done since I became a mod has been questioned either in a thread or in a PM. I don't do anything without asking and getting others feedback.
I do not have ability to please everyone and can only do what I believe to be right at the time. I am only human and sure I do make mistakes but, shit guys if everything I do is a mistake then what am I doing here?
@AuroraZero said: @c1vhosting has had the provder tag removed pending him giving people what they paid for without having to jump through hoops. In other words people get the IPs they paid for without asking for them.
I'm confused to a great degree about the standards of "remove", simply because @virmach did what @c1v did at a larger scale (unstable service, change of IP, etc) and much more people complaining about @virmach, but its provider tag is intact.
Anyway, so long and thanks for all the fish.
What sets c1v apart is that it's clear fraud. He decided not to automatically reassign IPv4 addresses, betting that customers won’t speak up, so they can re-rent them out. That’s a bit different from virmach.
Still for the sake of others, I think it’s best not to support such practices here
@AuroraZero Sorry for your negative feelings I may have caused, but I had no intention of challenging you. On the contrary, I really liked your activeness during last Black Friday and appreciate your great efforts. I just thought that remove was a great pity.
@bliss said: @AuroraZero Sorry for your negative feelings I may have caused, but I had no intention of challenging you. On the contrary, I really liked your activeness during last Black Friday and appreciate your great efforts. I just thought that remove was a great pity.
The host's policy/behaviour is a great pity - and removing the tag was the right call.
I got VPS migrated from ColoCrossing by @VirMach in 2022 and of course the IP was changed hence that VPS needed manual re-configuration /etc/systemd/network/20-wired.network . Put another way, @VirMach 's "auto-assigned new ipv4" didn't work until my intervention via VNC. After the migration, there were minor problems, though the overall experience was acceptable.
So my point is if C1V doesn't respond to tickets from "helpless" customers then it is no doubt C1V's fault. Since I don't have the experience of IP changing by C1V, I'm not sure, thus confused. (By helpless, I mean customers should be knowledgeable enough to fix their own VPS, unless it is only possible to fix with the help from the provider.) But I did open tickets several times to C1V, they were polite, respondent and effective.
I got VPS migrated from ColoCrossing by @VirMach in 2022 and of course the IP was changed hence that VPS needed manual re-configuration /etc/systemd/network/20-wired.network . Put another way, @VirMach 's "auto-assigned new ipv4" didn't work until my intervention via VNC. After the migration, there were minor problems, though the overall experience was acceptable.
So my point is if C1V doesn't respond to tickets from "helpless" customers then it is no doubt C1V's fault. Since I don't have the experience of IP changing by C1V, I'm not sure, thus confused. (By helpless, I mean customers should be knowledgeable enough to fix their own VPS, unless it is only possible to fix with the help from the provider.) But I did open tickets several times to C1V, they were polite, respondent and effective.
The offer says you get an IP address.
You pay the money.
And then you don't get an IP address until you ask nicely.
Not a malfunction, but a policy.
That's misleading (i.e. fraud) - and removing the provider tag until that is fixed was the right call IMO.
If you have any problems with VirMach, please open a ticket, or discuss it in a relevant thread.
Likewise, if you've had good experience with c1v, feel free to write a review (if you haven't already).
@AuroraZero said: @c1vhosting has had the provder tag removed pending him giving people what they paid for without having to jump through hoops. In other words people get the IPs they paid for without asking for them.
I'm confused to a great degree about the standards of "remove", simply because @virmach did what @c1v did at a larger scale (unstable service, change of IP, etc) and much more people complaining about @virmach, but its provider tag is intact.
Anyway, so long and thanks for all the fish.
What sets c1v apart is that it's clear fraud. He decided not to automatically reassign IPv4 addresses, betting that customers won’t speak up, so they can re-rent them out. That’s a bit different from virmach.
Still for the sake of others, I think it’s best not to support such practices here
Also Virmach is/was in a real datacenter (datacenters), not in a garage. I've had both, Virmach and C1V. To be honest, I was pretty happy with the Virmach VPS, not much downtime, performed well. In the end I only let it go because it didn't have IPv6. And yes, I had the IP change with Virmach, but it was pretty smooth. With C1V, a grace period of a couple of weeks was promised, but you had to take actions by submitting tickets etc. Already early in the grace period of C1V the VPS became unreachable, basically useless.
Okay guys I may have been a bit irritable when I wrote this and did not intend to take it on @bliss. I just wanted everyone to know that this was a staff consesus and not something I did on my own. This issue has been talked about many times over and ths incident was the final straw.
The right way to appeal something is NOT to PM me and try to make your case as I am only one member of staff. There are procedures n place to handle these and PMing me with a wall of non-sensible text is not the way to do it. I try to keep my personal feelings on the sidelines and not let my business decisions get involved.
I apoloze to @bliss as again it was not intention to lay anything on them.
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I have shared multiple offers that are, in my opinion, much than better than c1v.
Hopefully you won’t claim anymore that competing offers are not shared with you.
I'm going to give up on the VPSs I have, the experience is just too poor.
Windows 11 running on 10/year @Chunkserve VPS. Search by provider name on OGF for that promo offer.
Why would you
Why would anybody care
This is a thread for c1v discussion not for your deranged "running windows in a cheap vm"
Thanks for the recommendation!
@c1vhosting has had the provder tag removed pending him giving people what they paid for without having to jump through hoops. In other words people get the IPs they paid for without asking for them.
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finally!
I bench YABS 24/7/365 unless it's a leap year.
Thanks. The last straw.
I'm confused to a great degree about the standards of "remove", simply because @virmach did what @c1v did at a larger scale (unstable service, change of IP, etc) and much more people complaining about @virmach, but its provider tag is intact.
Anyway, so long and thanks for all the fish.
MicroLXC is lovable. Uptime of C1V
Once again this decision was reached by the entire staff. I was not staff at that time. I have no clue what went on behind the scenes then.
Damned near everything I have done since I became a mod has been questioned either in a thread or in a PM. I don't do anything without asking and getting others feedback.
I do not have ability to please everyone and can only do what I believe to be right at the time. I am only human and sure I do make mistakes but, shit guys if everything I do is a mistake then what am I doing here?
Free Hosting at YetiNode | Cryptid Security | URL Shortener | LaunchVPS | ExtraVM | Host-C | In the Node, or Out of the Loop?
What sets c1v apart is that it's clear fraud. He decided not to automatically reassign IPv4 addresses, betting that customers won’t speak up, so they can re-rent them out. That’s a bit different from virmach.
Still for the sake of others, I think it’s best not to support such practices here
@AuroraZero Sorry for your negative feelings I may have caused, but I had no intention of challenging you. On the contrary, I really liked your activeness during last Black Friday and appreciate your great efforts. I just thought that remove was a great pity.
MicroLXC is lovable. Uptime of C1V
Do you know any other case when provider didn’t auto-assigned new ipv4 when ip address change was implemented?
The host's policy/behaviour is a great pity - and removing the tag was the right call.
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I'm not sure what you mean, but I'm sure @VirMach changed several customers' IP, then those VPS got no public internet. While the "re-config network" button didn't work, those customers had no choice but to open tickets or report here:
https://lowendspirit.com/discussion/comment/139187/#Comment_139187
https://lowendspirit.com/discussion/comment/128987/#Comment_128987
I got VPS migrated from ColoCrossing by @VirMach in 2022 and of course the IP was changed hence that VPS needed manual re-configuration
/etc/systemd/network/20-wired.network. Put another way, @VirMach 's "auto-assigned new ipv4" didn't work until my intervention via VNC. After the migration, there were minor problems, though the overall experience was acceptable.So my point is if C1V doesn't respond to tickets from "helpless" customers then it is no doubt C1V's fault. Since I don't have the experience of IP changing by C1V, I'm not sure, thus confused. (By helpless, I mean customers should be knowledgeable enough to fix their own VPS, unless it is only possible to fix with the help from the provider.) But I did open tickets several times to C1V, they were polite, respondent and effective.
MicroLXC is lovable. Uptime of C1V
The offer says you get an IP address.
You pay the money.
And then you don't get an IP address until you ask nicely.
Not a malfunction, but a policy.
That's misleading (i.e. fraud) - and removing the provider tag until that is fixed was the right call IMO.
If you have any problems with VirMach, please open a ticket, or discuss it in a relevant thread.
Likewise, if you've had good experience with c1v, feel free to write a review (if you haven't already).
Relja of House Novović, the First of His Name, King of the Plains, the Breaker of Chains, WirMach Wolves pack member
BikeGremlin's web-hosting reviews
Also Virmach is/was in a real datacenter (datacenters), not in a garage. I've had both, Virmach and C1V. To be honest, I was pretty happy with the Virmach VPS, not much downtime, performed well. In the end I only let it go because it didn't have IPv6. And yes, I had the IP change with Virmach, but it was pretty smooth. With C1V, a grace period of a couple of weeks was promised, but you had to take actions by submitting tickets etc. Already early in the grace period of C1V the VPS became unreachable, basically useless.
Okay guys I may have been a bit irritable when I wrote this and did not intend to take it on @bliss. I just wanted everyone to know that this was a staff consesus and not something I did on my own. This issue has been talked about many times over and ths incident was the final straw.
The right way to appeal something is NOT to PM me and try to make your case as I am only one member of staff. There are procedures n place to handle these and PMing me with a wall of non-sensible text is not the way to do it. I try to keep my personal feelings on the sidelines and not let my business decisions get involved.
I apoloze to @bliss as again it was not intention to lay anything on them.
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Thank you to all staff for deciding to take away the provider tag of C1V.
scums like @c1vhosting should not be allowed to thrive on any hosting community.
that being said if he has real intentions to fix my shitty vps he is welcome to contact me.
I bench YABS 24/7/365 unless it's a leap year.
i totally agree.
I bench YABS 24/7/365 unless it's a leap year.
check amazing upload speed.
@c1vhosting
Reminds me of the days I had to use cable or DSL...
O wait, it's C1V. Then it just could be.