@eb1995 said:
It just doesn’t work. The ARM servers are pretty useless IMO without a specific need for it at the moment. White elephant.
Hmm. I figured so.
I thought since Microsoft seems to support ARM, I am surprised to see it not being supported.
I am trying to figure out if it's the ISO or something within the hardware that's preventing it to load.
I have read that Microsoft uses ARM internally for the Azure infrastructure. So there's that.
Is there anything that particularly needs windows that you're trying to run?
Asking primarily as 99%+ of all arm uses are embedded bsd, unix. More recently there have been a couple windows tablets based on the qualcomm arm chips, but the windows distros are pretty fine tuned to run on essentially only that version of arm. Unlike X86-64 there's at least 2 dozen revisions of ARM and they're ALL incompatible with each other. That's why you try to download an APK for android and there's a dozen versions to choose from.
If you wanted to run things on arm your best bet is Debian for the arm arch that's in use by the servers they provide. On top of that you can now run things like Minecraft (java), dot net applications (mono), your usual LAMP / LEMP stacks, etc. Basically if you can compile it, you can run it on the server.
Long time ago I swore off ARM for anything even for local hosting / hobby projects when I had a terrible 2 week experience of installing some software to a raspberry pi zero v1. Their Zero used an older version of arm that was incompatible with seemingly everything current and everything needed recompiling.
@bjo said:
Don't use netcup. If your ISO would load correctly, your contract extends automatically for 3 years, as we have mean contracts in Germany.
I never had this issue, and wasn’t able to find any documents to back up this claim. Could you be more specific please (I have quite a few servers with them with custom ISOs, and all of my servers show either 12M or 1M contracts on CCP, and the cancellation tab also provides correct date as well)
I'll join the Insider program and test it out on a disposable netcup system I have.
Edit: Was expecting a .ISO from W11 Insider, got a .VHDX instead..
Looks like it could be the right place? there's a forum post about this where the user was able to do it.
@eb1995 said:
It just doesn’t work. The ARM servers are pretty useless IMO without a specific need for it at the moment. White elephant.
Hmm. I figured so.
I thought since Microsoft seems to support ARM, I am surprised to see it not being supported.
I am trying to figure out if it's the ISO or something within the hardware that's preventing it to load.
I have read that Microsoft uses ARM internally for the Azure infrastructure. So there's that.
Is there anything that particularly needs windows that you're trying to run?
Asking primarily as 99%+ of all arm uses are embedded bsd, unix. More recently there have been a couple windows tablets based on the qualcomm arm chips, but the windows distros are pretty fine tuned to run on essentially only that version of arm. Unlike X86-64 there's at least 2 dozen revisions of ARM and they're ALL incompatible with each other. That's why you try to download an APK for android and there's a dozen versions to choose from.
If you wanted to run things on arm your best bet is Debian for the arm arch that's in use by the servers they provide. On top of that you can now run things like Minecraft (java), dot net applications (mono), your usual LAMP / LEMP stacks, etc. Basically if you can compile it, you can run it on the server.
Long time ago I swore off ARM for anything even for local hosting / hobby projects when I had a terrible 2 week experience of installing some software to a raspberry pi zero v1. Their Zero used an older version of arm that was incompatible with seemingly everything current and everything needed recompiling.
Fair points. I have nothing set in stone to run on ARM. Got this netcup vm and wanted to experiment. I will eventually turn to Debian, but, as of this moment, I'd love to see if I can get Windows working. Thanks
@bjo said:
Don't use netcup. If your ISO would load correctly, your contract extends automatically for 3 years, as we have mean contracts in Germany.
I never had this issue, and wasn’t able to find any documents to back up this claim. Could you be more specific please (I have quite a few servers with them with custom ISOs, and all of my servers show either 12M or 1M contracts on CCP, and the cancellation tab also provides correct date as well)
I think he was just messing around with me / trying to warn people about the contracts one may have to deal with Netcup. Thanks fro your concern
I'll join the Insider program and test it out on a disposable netcup system I have.
Edit: Was expecting a .ISO from W11 Insider, got a .VHDX instead..
Looks like it could be the right place? there's a forum post about this where the user was able to do it.
OOo that sounds good.
Would love to hear your feedback on how this goes
I think one can convert these .VHDX to raw or something and still load it.
I'll join the Insider program and test it out on a disposable netcup system I have.
Edit: Was expecting a .ISO from W11 Insider, got a .VHDX instead..
Looks like it could be the right place? there's a forum post about this where the user was able to do it.
OOo that sounds good.
Would love to hear your feedback on how this goes
I think one can convert these .VHDX to raw or something and still load it.
Question becomes will it still load file.
Just started converting the file, let's see! :O
Huh..
Let me try again without compression.
File acquired! Smaller than the .vhdx, time to attempt uploading it now
Hey @localhost
I'm having a hard time figuring out how to upload the Windows qcow2 file in Netcup's server control panel, got any recommendations I could test out?
I'm having a hard time figuring out how to upload the Windows qcow2 file in Netcup's server control panel, got any recommendations I could test out?
I have decided to transform it into a raw image and dd it in using bin456789, let's see how it goes.
Currently uploading raw
% Total % Received % Xferd Average Speed Time Time Time Current
Dload Upload Total Spent Left Speed
14 64.0G 0 0 14 9496M 0 7907k 2:21:26 0:20:29 2:00:57 7038k
I have gotten back to scenario 1, if I try to manually load EFI, screen just shines black, does a Windows logo and resets itself.
After a bit of dangling around, I fear this might be a secure boot issue, although not quite sure.
You might have better luck dding Win10IoT in.
AFAIK I don't think it'll run, there's that one dude in the forums, no clue if luck got to him but he just vanished right after the question.
If you would like to have the raw file to attempt to DD it in yourself (and maybe tweak a little more), PM me
@yucchun said:
I have gotten back to scenario 1, if I try to manually load EFI, screen just shines black, does a Windows logo and resets itself.
After a bit of dangling around, I fear this might be a secure boot issue, although not quite sure.
You might have better luck dding Win10IoT in.
AFAIK I don't think it'll run, there's that one dude in the forums, no clue if luck got to him but he just vanished right after the question.
If you would like to have the raw file to attempt to DD it in yourself (and maybe tweak a little more), PM me
Wow. Thanks for your persistent efforts.
I echo, win 10 may work.
I am not familiar with secureboit. I did ensure that it was disabled.
I will try the DD approach once with raw file and try once
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Don't use netcup. If your ISO would load correctly, your contract extends automatically for 3 years, as we have mean contracts in Germany.
If it happens it happens
Would you be so kind to point to the rule or tos for this? Thx.
That was just a joke as people here and on the OGF don't understand Netcups ToS, they just think not paying any more would cancel the service.
It just doesn’t work. The ARM servers are pretty useless IMO without a specific need for it at the moment. White elephant.
Hmm. I figured so.
I thought since Microsoft seems to support ARM, I am surprised to see it not being supported.
I am trying to figure out if it's the ISO or something within the hardware that's preventing it to load.
I have read that Microsoft uses ARM internally for the Azure infrastructure. So there's that.
Is there anything that particularly needs windows that you're trying to run?
Asking primarily as 99%+ of all arm uses are embedded bsd, unix. More recently there have been a couple windows tablets based on the qualcomm arm chips, but the windows distros are pretty fine tuned to run on essentially only that version of arm. Unlike X86-64 there's at least 2 dozen revisions of ARM and they're ALL incompatible with each other. That's why you try to download an APK for android and there's a dozen versions to choose from.
If you wanted to run things on arm your best bet is Debian for the arm arch that's in use by the servers they provide. On top of that you can now run things like Minecraft (java), dot net applications (mono), your usual LAMP / LEMP stacks, etc. Basically if you can compile it, you can run it on the server.
Long time ago I swore off ARM for anything even for local hosting / hobby projects when I had a terrible 2 week experience of installing some software to a raspberry pi zero v1. Their Zero used an older version of arm that was incompatible with seemingly everything current and everything needed recompiling.
I never had this issue, and wasn’t able to find any documents to back up this claim. Could you be more specific please (I have quite a few servers with them with custom ISOs, and all of my servers show either 12M or 1M contracts on CCP, and the cancellation tab also provides correct date as well)
@localhost You could attempt W11 Insider ARM, or bin456789's script.
I'll join the Insider program and test it out on a disposable netcup system I have.
Edit: Was expecting a .ISO from W11 Insider, got a .VHDX instead..
Looks like it could be the right place? there's a forum post about this where the user was able to do it.
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Fair points. I have nothing set in stone to run on ARM. Got this netcup vm and wanted to experiment. I will eventually turn to Debian, but, as of this moment, I'd love to see if I can get Windows working. Thanks
I think he was just messing around with me / trying to warn people about the contracts one may have to deal with Netcup. Thanks fro your concern
OOo that sounds good.
Would love to hear your feedback on how this goes
I think one can convert these .VHDX to raw or something and still load it.
Question becomes will it still load file.
Just started converting the file, let's see! :O
Huh..
Let me try again without compression.
File acquired! Smaller than the .vhdx, time to attempt uploading it now
datalix's aff #1 fan
If anyone is interested in getting ISOs, just get it from https://massgrave.dev/windows_arm_links
youtube.com/watch?v=k1BneeJTDcU
Thank you, will use it.
datalix's aff #1 fan
I grabbed my iso from here and failed.
Hey @localhost
I'm having a hard time figuring out how to upload the Windows qcow2 file in Netcup's server control panel, got any recommendations I could test out?
datalix's aff #1 fan
Yep, I got to where you started.
Nice attempt though
datalix's aff #1 fan
I have decided to transform it into a raw image and dd it in using bin456789, let's see how it goes.
Currently uploading raw
datalix's aff #1 fan
It hung, different approach started:
one file at a time... one file at a time....
128 splits.... one file at a time...
Update: now multithreading curl
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Update2: using bin456789.. again! in dd mode towards the image, thanks to @dedicatedcore for the VM that is currently holding the file.
datalix's aff #1 fan
I have gotten back to scenario 1, if I try to manually load EFI, screen just shines black, does a Windows logo and resets itself.
After a bit of dangling around, I fear this might be a secure boot issue, although not quite sure.
You might have better luck dding Win10IoT in.
AFAIK I don't think it'll run, there's that one dude in the forums, no clue if luck got to him but he just vanished right after the question.
If you would like to have the raw file to attempt to DD it in yourself (and maybe tweak a little more), PM me
datalix's aff #1 fan
Wow. Thanks for your persistent efforts.
I echo, win 10 may work.
I am not familiar with secureboit. I did ensure that it was disabled.
I will try the DD approach once with raw file and try once