Whmcs and Cpanel price hike 2024

Madcityservers

Here we go again. No real improvements or features that I see.
https://assets.whmcs.com/customer-licensing-guide-2024.pdf

https://www.cpanel.net/cpanel-price-adjustment-2023-2024-partners/

https://www.cpanel.net/wp-content/themes/cPbase/assets/docs/cP_Partner_Licensing_Guide_2024_v1_F.pdf

willie

Lol it never stops. Hopefully everyone here stopped using those products years ago.

TeYroX

Providers should switch to DirectAdmin and other billing panels like Blesta/Hostbill.

webmash

@TeYroX said:
Providers should switch to DirectAdmin and other billing panels like Blesta/Hostbill.

So glad I ditched WHMCS and WebPros a while ago!

c1vhosting

We’ll be switching then, it is becoming incredible

MannDude

And they'll do this next year about this time, too. Seems to be an annual tradition.

Lampard

@TeYroX said:
Providers should switch to DirectAdmin and other billing panels like Blesta/Hostbill.

DirectAdmin is already following the footsteps of cPanel. Taking out significant part of feature from lifetime, data center and other license which they call it Legacy now. MariaDB cannot be upgraded to 10.11, thus making these license useless when older version MariaDB goes EOL. They want all the people to switch to their normal $29/month license after selling all these "legacy" license for so many years. They are also tracking the number of accounts you are creating, so it will not be a surprise if they switch to per-account pricing model.

jfreak53

Most other mainstream providers will follow suit. We will probably stick with it 🤷‍♂️ it does its job properly.

bikegremlin

@TeYroX said:
Providers should switch to DirectAdmin and other billing panels like Blesta/Hostbill.

So, only FOSS could fix that problem in the long run... if humans were cooperative enough to build a decent one together.

bikegremlin

@Lampard said:

@TeYroX said:
Providers should switch to DirectAdmin and other billing panels like Blesta/Hostbill.

DirectAdmin is already following the footsteps of cPanel. Taking out significant part of feature from lifetime, data center and other license which they call it Legacy now. MariaDB cannot be upgraded to 10.11, thus making these license useless when older version MariaDB goes EOL. They want all the people to switch to their normal $29/month license after selling all these "legacy" license for so many years. They are also tracking the number of accounts you are creating, so it will not be a surprise if they switch to per-account pricing model.

rubenmdh

@bikegremlin said:

@TeYroX said:
Providers should switch to DirectAdmin and other billing panels like Blesta/Hostbill.

So, only FOSS could fix that problem in the long run... if humans were cooperative enough to build a decent one together.

Can't agree more. With just a handful of maintainers we could get a decent product that slowly evolves into a good product. I am dreaming, I know.

Ympker

Time to support panels like HestiaCP:

TeYroX

@bikegremlin said:

@TeYroX said:
Providers should switch to DirectAdmin and other billing panels like Blesta/Hostbill.

So, only FOSS could fix that problem in the long run... if humans were cooperative enough to build a decent one together.

There is also Paymenter which is free, open source and devs are very active on discord

jfreak53

Is what it is, we are too invested into it to switch, too many custom integrations over 15 years of using it 🤷‍♂️

vvierg

ispmanager gives a year of free usage for switching from cPanel. I think I should take advantage of such a generous offer.

FrankZ

@vvierg said:
ispmanager gives a year of free usage for switching from cPanel. I think I should take advantage of such a generous offer.

Hum, I thought you already switched last month.

@vvierg said:
With all due respect to cPanel, my patience is breaking. Every year the same desire for more and more of my money. So I am starting the migration to ispmanager. In my opinion it is the best alternative with the similar functionality but for a much lower price.
I don't believe in free panels. Only cheese in a mousetrap can be free.

You're starting to look like a bit of a shill. So I am not sure I should take you seriously.

legendary

No one will solve problem except you. FOSS is not a solution. Just build your-own panel. Only that will bring the relief from rug pulling.

VirMach

@bikegremlin said: if humans were cooperative enough to build a decent one together.

@rubenmdh said: Can't agree more. With just a handful of maintainers we could get a decent product that slowly evolves into a good product. I am dreaming, I know.

Count me in. It's been a personal dream of mine to de-WP everything but as a host several things are extremely important that seem to be "missing" from any other project. Maybe I'm wrong, it just feels that way.

Okay but like seriously, it genuinely cannot be that difficult as long as it is streamlined, without all the bells and whistles. Not stretched thin, hyperfocused on achieving an actual drop-in replacement with a solid core and API to allow for heavy additions. Then hosts can focus on creating replacements for their customizations, and painless replacement. No bloat to keep it secure and relatively bug-free.

• Billing
• Tickets
• Webhosting
• VPS
• Monitoring

.If you think about it all that's being done is controlling pre-existing packages.

Most importantly if it doesn't end up being free, definitely at least a "we legally can't screw you over" clause. Second most important thing which would obviously make things immediately fall apart is that each provider will have a specific niche they've heavily gone into using existing software. This would make it hard to do it "streamlined" since they all have their requirements and biases so for it to work it'd have to probably be people with the same set of checkbox requirements. For example for us that would be KVM virtualization, for another it might be OpenVZ and that's just one part of it. Add in all the others and it could create a 25-way schism or turn into development hell trying to do it all. Even more so of course if they try to cram in specific little things as base features such as specific payment gateways. There'd basically have to be a vote to only do the most popular of each to start.

One final thing, it can't actually be better because for it to be an actual "replacement" it has to basically initially do it almost exactly in the same crappy way for every little thing. Of course it doesn't have to be done in the same maze-like fashion though.

@TeYroX said: There is also Paymenter which is free

@Ympker said: Time to support panels like HestiaCP

Interesting projects, as well as OpenNebula. They could serve as a good foundation if stripped apart and put back together.

rcy026

@Ympker said:
Time to support panels like HestiaCP:

Time for Hestia to support ipv6.

I love Hestia, I really do, but as long as they stay 20 years behind they are not a viable option.

Micronode

We’ll be moving away from WHMCS, we have over 2000 clients most of which pay £1-5 per year. This simply isn’t sustainable for a small business such as ourselves.

What do people prefer? Clientexec or Hostbill?

legendary

@natvps_uk said:
We’ll be moving away from WHMCS, we have over 2000 clients most of which pay £1-5 per year. This simply isn’t sustainable for a small business such as ourselves.

What do people prefer? Clientexec or Hostbill?

In-house built solution. Especially if services sold is niche.

bikrama

@Ympker said:
Time to support panels like HestiaCP:

HestiaCP is a very good panel using them for many production websites.

vvierg

@FrankZ said: I thought you already switched last month.

Indeed, I switched to ispmanager on one server recently, before the promotion. But I would like to switch the other few of my servers on this promotion, which came out a couple of weeks ago. What confused you?

FrankZ

@vvierg said: What confused you?

Why do you think I am confused ?
Your only comments on LES have been to promote ispmanager so it is pretty clear.