Hetzner launches object storage (s3)

havochavoc OGContent Writer

Still in beta but looks promising

https://docs.hetzner.com/storage/object-storage/

The terraform compatibility in particular is neat

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  • @havoc said: object storage

    Their own storage boxes are cheaper as well as at least a couple of established competitors.

  • edited October 7

    I have a 5 TB storage box and use it for offsite backup. €11 per month is the best rate going

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  • The 1 euro/TB bandwidth charge is killer, if it includes internal bandwidth as S3 providers like to do.

  • its nice to have a EU alternative to the more main stream providers

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  • havochavoc OGContent Writer

    @DataRecovery said:

    @havoc said: object storage

    Their own storage boxes are cheaper as well as at least a couple of established competitors.

    Yeah you don't go for object storage if aim is cheapest price per gig ;)

  • I wish they also planned to offer in their US location

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    The project seems intriguing, but we are currently using Wasabi and are considering transitioning to the Hetzner solution.

  • Has anyone started to use it and can comment on whether there are some weird limitations or bugs?

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  • ialexpwialexpw OGServices Provider
    edited October 11

    @vitobotta said:
    Has anyone started to use it and can comment on whether there are some weird limitations or bugs?

    I just got accepted into it, but haven't used it yet! Will set something up in a little bit to do some testing.

    Screens

  • @ialexpw said:

    @vitobotta said:
    Has anyone started to use it and can comment on whether there are some weird limitations or bugs?

    I just got accepted into it, but haven't used it yet! Will set something up in a little bit to do some testing.

    Screens

    Would appreciate if could update the thread with your first impressions. It's mostly for personal backups and stuff. I was using iDrive e2 until they had a full day outage in the Frankfurt region causing me some headaches so I switched to StorJ a few days ago, but I get sometimes the error "Please reduce your request rate" and I was surprised to learn the default is 100 req/sec only, which isn't much when you do backups with a tool like Arq. So I requested a limit increase and I am waiting to see if they approve. Anyway I was considering using Hetzner for this instead (since I already use them for other stuff) if it's already in a good shape given that it's still beta.

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  • mannenmannen Hosting Provider
    edited October 11

    So it seems there is a minimum charge of €5/month + VAT which includes 1TB of storage and 1TB traffic.
    Think they should at least be able to offer more than 1TB traffic out, Backblaze for example offers 3x stored/paid egress traffic for free, so 3TB per month should be included in this case for the base price.
    Ingress traffic seems to be free.

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  • havochavoc OGContent Writer

    @mannen said:
    So it seems there is a minimum charge of €5/month + VAT which includes 1TB of storage and 1TB traffic.
    Think they should at least be able to offer more than 1TB traffic out, Backblaze for example offers 3x stored/paid egress traffic for free, so 3TB per month should be included in this case for the base price.
    Ingress traffic seems to be free.

    Backblaze has no compute though. Say for example you've got a K8S cluster. Each of those nodes is ephemeral/could fail so you need to stick the data somewhere else...like object storage. And you don't want that 50ms away on a different provider if you can help it

  • @havoc said:

    @mannen said:
    So it seems there is a minimum charge of €5/month + VAT which includes 1TB of storage and 1TB traffic.
    Think they should at least be able to offer more than 1TB traffic out, Backblaze for example offers 3x stored/paid egress traffic for free, so 3TB per month should be included in this case for the base price.
    Ingress traffic seems to be free.

    Backblaze has no compute though. Say for example you've got a K8S cluster. Each of those nodes is ephemeral/could fail so you need to stick the data somewhere else...like object storage. And you don't want that 50ms away on a different provider if you can help it

    I'd be surprised if there weren't suitable compute options (DigitalOcean, Scaleway, Vultr, etc.) with low latency to Backblaze B2.

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  • havochavoc OGContent Writer
    edited October 13

    Currently investigating whether I can (ab)use this as an SQL replacement for low volume tx. The 6 euro minimum is making it a little hard to justify though. Kinda means you have to use it for multiple things. Maybe s3 fuse fs or something

    @adly said:

    @havoc said:

    @mannen said:
    So it seems there is a minimum charge of €5/month + VAT which includes 1TB of storage and 1TB traffic.
    Think they should at least be able to offer more than 1TB traffic out, Backblaze for example offers 3x stored/paid egress traffic for free, so 3TB per month should be included in this case for the base price.
    Ingress traffic seems to be free.

    Backblaze has no compute though. Say for example you've got a K8S cluster. Each of those nodes is ephemeral/could fail so you need to stick the data somewhere else...like object storage. And you don't want that 50ms away on a different provider if you can help it

    I'd be surprised if there weren't suitable compute options (DigitalOcean, Scaleway, Vultr, etc.) with low latency to Backblaze B2.

    True. Though you lose out on the free internal traffic.

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  • @havoc said: True. Though you lose out on the free internal traffic.

    Vultr is also free to/from B2, which could be a viable option. There may be others, the Bandwidth Alliance partner agreements aren't clear beyond to/from Cloudflare.

  • @vitobotta said:
    Would appreciate if could update the thread with your first impressions. It's mostly for personal backups and stuff. I was using iDrive e2 until they had a full day outage in the Frankfurt region causing me some headaches so I switched to StorJ a few days ago, but I get sometimes the error "Please reduce your request rate" and I was surprised to learn the default is 100 req/sec only, which isn't much when you do backups with a tool like Arq. So I requested a limit increase and I am waiting to see if they approve. Anyway I was considering using Hetzner for this instead (since I already use them for other stuff) if it's already in a good shape given that it's still beta.

    They even provide docs for using Arq (https://storj.dev/dcs/third-party-tools/arq) - somehow stupid that youget issues with the request rate.
    I've moved my b2 restic repos now to storj, let's see how it fits.

  • @bjo said:

    @vitobotta said:
    Would appreciate if could update the thread with your first impressions. It's mostly for personal backups and stuff. I was using iDrive e2 until they had a full day outage in the Frankfurt region causing me some headaches so I switched to StorJ a few days ago, but I get sometimes the error "Please reduce your request rate" and I was surprised to learn the default is 100 req/sec only, which isn't much when you do backups with a tool like Arq. So I requested a limit increase and I am waiting to see if they approve. Anyway I was considering using Hetzner for this instead (since I already use them for other stuff) if it's already in a good shape given that it's still beta.

    They even provide docs for using Arq (https://storj.dev/dcs/third-party-tools/arq) - somehow stupid that youget issues with the request rate.
    I've moved my b2 restic repos now to storj, let's see how it fits.

    Seem that the rate limit issue has gone after they raised the limit for me, so all good so far.

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  • havochavoc OGContent Writer
    edited October 13

    @adly said:

    @havoc said: True. Though you lose out on the free internal traffic.

    Vultr is also free to/from B2, which could be a viable option. There may be others, the Bandwidth Alliance partner agreements aren't clear beyond to/from Cloudflare.

    Good point - had forgotten about that.

    The more I think about this the more I'm disliking the 6 EUR minimum charge. For low volume usage that's brutal. Tempted to stick the thing i was planning to build onto a (eww) oracle free database

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  • mfsmfs OG
    edited October 31

    Just landed in my Inbox

    Dear Mr mfs

    We would like to inform you that we are extending the beta phase for Object Storage.

    This means that you can continue to use Hetzner Object Storage free of charge and test all functions as usual.

    As soon as a concrete end date for the beta phase has been set and the product becomes chargeable, we will inform you again.

    If you have any questions or require further information, please do not hesitate to contact us at any time.

    Your feedback is still very important to us. We would be delighted if you would take part in this survey to let us know your impressions and experiences with the beta test and our product: link
    We will award 50 cloud vouchers worth €15 each among all entries as a thank you for your participation.

    Thank you very much for your trust.

    Best regards

    Hetzner Online

  • Damm it, i was planning to start using it today but still there is not access por new users.

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