@Falzo said: looks like the separation (fire-protection?) between SBG2 and SBG3 might have done its job and withhold quite some damage.
My thinking was more "damn those firefighter were on point in preventing spread"...those things are really close together
I doubt there is much, they could really do about that, based on how they can or cannot locate themselves. but sure they might have tried to cool down the connection parts to avoid spread. didn't work so well on the other side towards the SBG1 containers though...
this gives an additional hint about the structure and the whole thing not really being a cube at all:
Once a "jinx-prone" colleague was on his way to fix our electrics, I phoned a friend at the fire department, who also knows the guy:
"This is probably the first time you got a 'schedule' call! See, Lucky is on his way to fix our electric cables, so I advise you to get ready and slowly be on your way to our offices." It all went fine, we all just had a laugh, and Lucky is a top-class guy - but he is a jinx which has been our running joke over the years.
Oh Lord! I feel for OVH and their customers. Horrible incident. I am glad that nobody died or got hurt, as it seems!
But I must also admit that postings like "How do I activate the Disaster Recovery Plan in the OVH panel?" amuse me a bit. Do people really think that a Disaster Recovery Plan is something that your provider offers as an addon? This world...
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@WSCallum said: I believe it was used to trial out the locations
I think mostly also because it simply was cheap. didn't they also get awards for kind of inventing or pushing that way of building DC infrastructure?
Yep that is literally the intention - Cheap and quick to build which allowed them to trial out demand in SBG before making residence there permanently, demand was so high while SBG 2/3 were being built SBG4 was also made out of shipping containers - I saw somewhere though that they were meant to be decommissioning 1/4 and merging them into 3 essentially. Unsure on the awards side but wouldn't surprise me.
I noticed that structure on some of the images from the fire. I'm not a fire engineer (if thats even a thing) or anything but that made me think that the whole structure must act like a giant chimney when on fire, creating a lot of drag and plenty of oxygen to fuel the fire.
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@Freek said:
Didn't they have a fire as well a couple of years ago? I can't find the news article anymore.
If memory serves me, there was a fire on a building close-by. They talked about adding (or already having added) some external fire-protection plates to prevent such incidents from putting them in danger.
Can't find the article neither.
That was online.net, their "firewall" did work for them though back then.
In some countries, this could've meant over a 100 deaths. It's good that nobody got hurt. Yes, we can mock people for not keeping backups, but still, the next few days are going to hurt like hell.
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I doubt there is much, they could really do about that, based on how they can or cannot locate themselves. but sure they might have tried to cool down the connection parts to avoid spread. didn't work so well on the other side towards the SBG1 containers though...
this gives an additional hint about the structure and the whole thing not really being a cube at all:
Once a "jinx-prone" colleague was on his way to fix our electrics, I phoned a friend at the fire department, who also knows the guy:
"This is probably the first time you got a 'schedule' call! See, Lucky is on his way to fix our electric cables, so I advise you to get ready and slowly be on your way to our offices."
It all went fine, we all just had a laugh, and Lucky is a top-class guy - but he is a jinx which has been our running joke over the years.
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Oh Lord! I feel for OVH and their customers. Horrible incident. I am glad that nobody died or got hurt, as it seems!
But I must also admit that postings like "How do I activate the Disaster Recovery Plan in the OVH panel?" amuse me a bit. Do people really think that a Disaster Recovery Plan is something that your provider offers as an addon? This world...
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Aren’t most datacenters one big room? Why did OVH go with a shipping container design?
Only SBG1 and SBG4 are shipping containers, 2/3 are actual buildings (although still very much have a container style to them)
I believe it was used to trial out the locations before investing in actual buildings at the time.
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I think mostly also because it simply was cheap. didn't they also get awards for kind of inventing or pushing that way of building DC infrastructure?
Yep that is literally the intention - Cheap and quick to build which allowed them to trial out demand in SBG before making residence there permanently, demand was so high while SBG 2/3 were being built SBG4 was also made out of shipping containers - I saw somewhere though that they were meant to be decommissioning 1/4 and merging them into 3 essentially. Unsure on the awards side but wouldn't surprise me.
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that was 2017 in regards to the power loss incident there and afair more related to the grid design and not neccessarily the containers itself ;-)
That would make more sense!
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I noticed that structure on some of the images from the fire. I'm not a fire engineer (if thats even a thing) or anything but that made me think that the whole structure must act like a giant chimney when on fire, creating a lot of drag and plenty of oxygen to fuel the fire.
agreed. and if the power gets cut, luck might have it the generators kick in and survive a while to have the vents/AC still blowing into it...
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What was the reason?
And why did it burn so well?
Probably following the same idea as Google 12 years ago:
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its pretty bad for those without a backup...
my wife's email is down because of it.
hopefully recovers well for all.
In some countries, this could've meant over a 100 deaths. It's good that nobody got hurt. Yes, we can mock people for not keeping backups, but still, the next few days are going to hurt like hell.