LakeNetworks presentation on LES

lakenetworkslakenetworks Hosting Provider
edited January 20 in General

Hello LES community!

We are glad to start this experience with you!

LakeNetworks is a recently started project based in Como (Italy) managed by 4 tech enthusiasts: Alessio, Jacopo, Michele and Paulo.
Each of us has its own role in keeping the clock ticking but in general we are all capable of assisting you with every request you might make!

We operate independently as we have our own AS (AS212516) and our own equipment.
Right now, we have 1 /24 IPv4 subnet and 1 /32 IPv6 subnet; we’re looking to increase our IP pool in the very next future!
Right now, our equipment is:

  • x86 VyOS Router;
  • Mikrotik CRS309-1G-8S+;
  • Mikrotik RB5009UG+S+ (Our office's router);
  • DELL PowerEdge R620 ( 2x Intel Xeon E5-2680v2 @ 128GB DDR3);
  • DELL PowerEdge R630 ( 2x Intel Xeon E5-2690v4 @ 256GB DDR4);
  • 30U available for colocation;

We advertise 1Gbit/s bandwidth with 10Gbit/s peak (best effort) with unlimited traffic under fair use.
Our full terms of service can be found here: https://lakenetworks.it/docs/terms-of-service-en.pdf

On the more technical side, we allow BGP on every VPS we sell; we have port 25 blocked but you can request opening it via ticket. Furthermore, we give free /48 IPv6 on request (first IPv4 is free).
You can reach us via phone ([redacted]), via email ([redacted]) or telegram ([redacted]_contact) and you can see what we have available on [redacted]

As Europeans we value your privacy above everything else, we follow GDPR meticulously to ensure that your personal data is handled with the utmost care possible; you can read our privacy policy here: https://lakenetworks.it/docs/privacy-policy-en.pdf

As we expand our operations, we want to make the most of our geographical position to act as a strategic link between Italy and Switzerland. Our target is to provide reliable hosting services that benefit from our proximity to technological hubs in the regions.

LakeNetworks is just getting started, and we know there is a long way to go. We know we can face the market challenges with our solutions tailored both for basic and for the demanding user, offering both quality and competitive prices.

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  • @lakenetworks said:

    • x86 VyOS Router;

    Garbage according to my LIR.

    • Mikrotik CRS309-1G-8S+;

    Garbage according to my LIR.

    • Mikrotik RB5009UG+S+ (Our office's router);

    Garbage according to my LIR.

    • DELL PowerEdge R620 ( 2x Intel Xeon E5-2680v2 @ 128GB DDR3);

    12 years old processor.

    • DELL PowerEdge R630 ( 2x Intel Xeon E5-2690v4 @ 256GB DDR4);

    9 years old processor.

    • 30U available for colocation;

    Basement?

    AS212516

    Single-homed.

    1 /24 IPv4 subnet

    185.184.221.0/24 "mnt-by: xtom" so it's not yours.

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  • lakenetworkslakenetworks Hosting Provider
    edited January 20

    @yoursunny said: Garbage according to my LIR.

    This infrastructure is working quite well for the amount of traffic we are currently generating (we don't need a Juniper MX204 if we are generating ~100Mbps xD). Obviously, we will migrate to better infrastructure as soon as it will have sense according to the traffic and necessity we'll have. The RB5009 is used only to connect IDRAC and the office LAN

    @yoursunny said: 12 years old processor.
    @yoursunny said: 9 years old processor.

    Exactly, this is started as a lab project (I think you can tell quite a bit from the photo) and we will be as transparent as possible about everything we do.

    @yoursunny said: Basement?

    Remembering that this started as a lab project, it's not quite a basement but simply a rack placed in a non-residential room. We are gearing up, economic availability permitting, day after day in increasing the reliability of the infrastructure, and clearly, in improving the "server room"

    @yoursunny said: Single-homed.

    Even on this side, we are the first to think that greater redundancy is clearly needed. The most important investment plan includes the addition of a second link on a different uplink

    @yoursunny said: 185.184.221.0/24 "mnt-by: xtom" so it's not yours.

    Meaning, we're renting the subnet, clearly. If we had €8k to spend immediately to buy a /24 subnet, in addition to 1.5k/year of LIR in RIPE, we would also have improved the reliability and the server room :)
    Very simply, we wanted to start by getting involved by ourself and not simply reselling other services

  • @lakenetworks said: Exactly, this is started as a lab project (I think you can tell quite a bit from the photo)

    Quite so! They seem to have been used as heavy duty door mats :-P

    and we will be as transparent as possible about everything we do.

    Even so, you could have taken a swipe over the front of your hardware and used a black marker to touch up the worst bits. My lab may not be spotless, but there is 0 risk of getting sand in any ports or crevices.

  • skorousskorous OGSenpai

    @lakenetworks said:

    @yoursunny said: Garbage according to my LIR.

    This infrastructure is working quite well for the amount of traffic we are currently generating (we don't need a Juniper MX204 if we are generating ~100Mbps xD). Obviously, we will migrate to better infrastructure as soon as it will have sense according to the traffic and necessity we'll have. The RB5009 is used only to connect IDRAC and the office LAN

    Apologies for @yoursunny. He can be a bit ... acerbic, at times.

    @yoursunny said: Basement?

    Remembering that this started as a lab project, it's not quite a basement but simply a rack placed in a non-residential room. We are gearing up, economic availability permitting, day after day in increasing the reliability of the infrastructure, and clearly, in improving the "server room"

    Okay, so we're not DC grade we're residential. Be ready for some fair amount of resistance. At least in my memory we've not had great luck with "basement" hosts. Nor Italian hosts come to think of it.

  • lakenetworkslakenetworks Hosting Provider
    edited January 20

    @wankel said: Even so, you could have taken a swipe over the front of your hardware and used a black marker to touch up the worst bits. My lab may not be spotless, but there is 0 risk of getting sand in any ports or crevices.

    When we bought the rack, instead of being black it was grey.
    We wasted 2 hours cleaning the rack, on the units placeholders there are mainly scratches or marks that don't come off. There is no sand in that room, it's not in a garage :)

    @skorous said: Okay, so we're not DC grade we're residential. Be ready for some fair amount of resistance. At least in my memory we've not had great luck with "basement" hosts. Nor Italian hosts come to think of it.

    It's not residential: it's not in a house.
    But anyway yes, we put the maximum of our efforts into guaranteeing the greatest possible uptime.
    Clearly, over time, adjustments will be made and it will get closer and closer to DC-grade (as you can see, as of now we didn't talk about guarantees, tier 4/3 data centers or anything similar).
    We are absolutely not saying that everything is 100% reliable now, but the goal is to create a strategic point for interconnections with Italy and Switzerland, and I am almost certain that with the dedication we are putting into it now we will succeed :)

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  • edited January 20

    @lakenetworks said: we put the maximum of our efforts into guaranteeing the greatest possible uptime.

    Website states:

    All services are provided on an experimental basis and may experience downtime or technical issues. We make no guarantees regarding their availability or performance.

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  • lakenetworkslakenetworks Hosting Provider
    edited January 20

    Yup. As I already told on this post, as of now it's everything on a experimental/lab basis.
    Our 30days uptime actually averages on 99.53%

    @bmoto said: Website states:

    What is written on the site ABSOLUTELY DOES NOT mean that we do not strive with all of our strength to provide the best service we can provide based on current resources.

  • wankelwankel OG
    edited January 20

    guarantees ...

    So far, I'm happy with the transparancy.

    I prefer an acknowledgement of possible more than wanted downtime, but with zeal to get better, than statements of shiny datacenters with only downtime as proof of the opposite.

    One has to start somewhere, and if the start can be a hobby that turns out to break even without causing victims under unknowing customers, all the better.

    PS: poor rack... It reminds me of those bear sanctuaries for elderly/rescued circus animals.

  • lakenetworkslakenetworks Hosting Provider

    @wankel said:

    guarantees ...

    So far, I'm happy with the transparancy.

    I prefer an acknowledgement of possible more than wanted downtime, but with zeal to get better, than statements of shiny datacenters with only downtime as proof of the opposite.

    One has to start somewhere, and if the start can be a hobby that turns out to break even without causing victims under unknowing customers, all the better.

    PS: poor rack... It reminds me of those bear sanctuaries for elderly/rescued circus animals.

    Totally agree! As we said it's in our best interest to be transparent with everyone and provide a service that is the best we can offer. Of course being a small operator, I understand this might not mean much for some but the effort is undoubtedly there.
    Thank you!

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  • ZizzyDizzyMCZizzyDizzyMC Hosting Provider

    @skorous said:

    @lakenetworks said:

    @yoursunny said: Garbage according to my LIR.

    This infrastructure is working quite well for the amount of traffic we are currently generating (we don't need a Juniper MX204 if we are generating ~100Mbps xD). Obviously, we will migrate to better infrastructure as soon as it will have sense according to the traffic and necessity we'll have. The RB5009 is used only to connect IDRAC and the office LAN


    Apologies for @yoursunny. He can be a bit ... acerbic, at times.

    @yoursunny said: Basement?

    Remembering that this started as a lab project, it's not quite a basement but simply a rack placed in a non-residential room. We are gearing up, economic availability permitting, day after day in increasing the reliability of the infrastructure, and clearly, in improving the "server room"

    Okay, so we're not DC grade we're residential. Be ready for some fair amount of resistance. At least in my memory we've not had great luck with "basement" hosts. Nor Italian hosts come to think of it.

    What you mean basement hosts aren't great! Though you are kinda right. Glad to see someone who's being transparent about what they have. Remember to apply for the hosting tag on LES before actual advertising. :)

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  • skorousskorous OGSenpai

    @ZizzyDizzyMC said:

    @skorous said:

    @lakenetworks said:

    @yoursunny said: Garbage according to my LIR.

    This infrastructure is working quite well for the amount of traffic we are currently generating (we don't need a Juniper MX204 if we are generating ~100Mbps xD). Obviously, we will migrate to better infrastructure as soon as it will have sense according to the traffic and necessity we'll have. The RB5009 is used only to connect IDRAC and the office LAN


    Apologies for @yoursunny. He can be a bit ... acerbic, at times.

    @yoursunny said: Basement?

    Remembering that this started as a lab project, it's not quite a basement but simply a rack placed in a non-residential room. We are gearing up, economic availability permitting, day after day in increasing the reliability of the infrastructure, and clearly, in improving the "server room"

    Okay, so we're not DC grade we're residential. Be ready for some fair amount of resistance. At least in my memory we've not had great luck with "basement" hosts. Nor Italian hosts come to think of it.

    What you mean basement hosts aren't great! Though you are kinda right. Glad to see someone who's being transparent about what they have. Remember to apply for the hosting tag on LES before actual advertising. :)

    I never said they weren't great. I said we haven't had great luck - you being the shining exception of course.;-)

  • edited January 21

    Best wishes for you garage (ok, 'non-residential room') start-up company.

  • lakenetworkslakenetworks Hosting Provider

    @ZizzyDizzyMC said: What you mean basement hosts aren't great! Though you are kinda right. Glad to see someone who's being transparent about what they have. Remember to apply for the hosting tag on LES before actual advertising.

    Glad to hear that sincerity is still valued!
    We've seen hosts in the past that were less-than-optimal but advertised DC grade services, we won't follow their trace.
    Thank you! :)

    @Newyawker said:
    Best wishes for you garage (ok, 'non-residential room') start-up company.

    Thank you, we appreciate it! Although I'd like to remind that it's not a garage but an office.

  • I really do appreciate the honesty here.

    As you surely can tell by now this forum has kind of an aversion against "basement hosts", for historical reason.
    However, you have been completely transparent with your setup and you even provided a photo from your datacenter in your first post! This is something other providers have not managed to do despite being asked to do so for a very long time, so in my book you are already ahead.

    Keep the honesty and stay transparent and I am sure you will do good. The lowend community tolerates just about anything as long as you don't lie, scam or steal, so you will probably have no problem fitting in here.
    Good luck! :smile:

  • Lifetime warranty Procurve! :)

  • lakenetworkslakenetworks Hosting Provider

    @bdl said: Lifetime warranty Procurve! :)

    I don't deny that it was put there just to not leave it on the ground xD

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  • @skorous said:
    Apologies for @yoursunny. He can be a bit ... acerbic, at times.

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  • @ZizzyDizzyMC said:

    @skorous said:

    @lakenetworks said:

    @yoursunny said: Garbage according to my LIR.

    This infrastructure is working quite well for the amount of traffic we are currently generating (we don't need a Juniper MX204 if we are generating ~100Mbps xD). Obviously, we will migrate to better infrastructure as soon as it will have sense according to the traffic and necessity we'll have. The RB5009 is used only to connect IDRAC and the office LAN


    Apologies for @yoursunny. He can be a bit ... acerbic, at times.

    @yoursunny said: Basement?

    Remembering that this started as a lab project, it's not quite a basement but simply a rack placed in a non-residential room. We are gearing up, economic availability permitting, day after day in increasing the reliability of the infrastructure, and clearly, in improving the "server room"

    Okay, so we're not DC grade we're residential. Be ready for some fair amount of resistance. At least in my memory we've not had great luck with "basement" hosts. Nor Italian hosts come to think of it.

    What you mean basement hosts aren't great! Though you are kinda right. Glad to see someone who's being transparent about what they have. Remember to apply for the hosting tag on LES before actual advertising. :)

    Too late. Already advertised including links to their website without a provider tag. Not sure why it's been overlooked by the moderation team.

  • AuroraZeroAuroraZero ModeratorHosting ProviderRetired

    @techdragon said:

    @ZizzyDizzyMC said:

    @skorous said:

    @lakenetworks said:

    @yoursunny said: Garbage according to my LIR.

    This infrastructure is working quite well for the amount of traffic we are currently generating (we don't need a Juniper MX204 if we are generating ~100Mbps xD). Obviously, we will migrate to better infrastructure as soon as it will have sense according to the traffic and necessity we'll have. The RB5009 is used only to connect IDRAC and the office LAN


    Apologies for @yoursunny. He can be a bit ... acerbic, at times.

    @yoursunny said: Basement?

    Remembering that this started as a lab project, it's not quite a basement but simply a rack placed in a non-residential room. We are gearing up, economic availability permitting, day after day in increasing the reliability of the infrastructure, and clearly, in improving the "server room"

    Okay, so we're not DC grade we're residential. Be ready for some fair amount of resistance. At least in my memory we've not had great luck with "basement" hosts. Nor Italian hosts come to think of it.

    What you mean basement hosts aren't great! Though you are kinda right. Glad to see someone who's being transparent about what they have. Remember to apply for the hosting tag on LES before actual advertising. :)

    Too late. Already advertised including links to their website without a provider tag. Not sure why it's been overlooked by the moderation team.

    If there is a problem flag it and tell me what rule is violated.

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  • skorousskorous OGSenpai

    @techdragon said:

    Too late. Already advertised including links to their website without a provider tag. Not sure why it's been overlooked by the moderation team.

    They didn't post any offers or anything, just included links to their ToS and privacy policy. I didn't think that was a problem for an introduction thread.

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  • lakenetworkslakenetworks Hosting Provider

    @techdragon said: Too late. Already advertised including links to their website without a provider tag. Not sure why it's been overlooked by the moderation team.

    We linked our website, yes, the rules specify that "paid offers or links to paid offers" are not allowed but we have no offers there (main page), although I understand it might be considered "borderline".
    We're open to deleting anything that is against the rules (or in any "grey zone") when reported.

  • teamaccteamacc OGSenpai

    As someone who has reported numerous threads in the past, I honestly don't see anything wrong with this

    Hey teamacc. You're a dick. (c) Jon Biloh, 2020.

  • MikeAMikeA Hosting ProviderOG

    How do you like the Mikrotik? Like it or regret? I've never used any but want to get one to play with at home. Many people have pretty stern opinions on them, either they're awesome or they blow.

  • lakenetworkslakenetworks Hosting Provider

    @MikeA said: How do you like the Mikrotik? Like it or regret

    The RB5009 for the office LAN is performing quite well. The CRS is functioning solely as a managed switch, so it would be surprising if it weren’t working flawlessly. Personally, I have a love-hate relationship with MikroTik—sometimes it works beautifully and the setup feels intuitive, while other times it can be quite the opposite.

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  • Always nice seeing exotic (ok, not quite so) locations, even if basement hosts on a shoestring.
    Good luck with your buttered uh battered toaster.

  • @Shot² said:
    basement hosts on a shoestring

    "basement hosts on a FastEthernet cable"

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  • another pasta.host ? we have good experience on LeS with pasta.hosts/pizza hosts

  • but where's the LeS offers ?

  • lakenetworkslakenetworks Hosting Provider

    @cold said:
    another pasta.host ? we have good experience on LeS with pasta.hosts/pizza hosts

    Well, then we hope to change that reputation and to constantly improve our service ;)

  • @lakenetworks said:

    @cold said:
    another pasta.host ? we have good experience on LeS with pasta.hosts/pizza hosts

    Well, then we hope to change that reputation and to constantly improve our service ;)

    that's what the Mario brother said @synthohosting and @c1vhosting who constantly MASSIVE invested to sell us shit.

    so thank you but no thank you.

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