Cheapest storage ($0.5 - ) $2.5 / TB / Month

edited December 2024 in Help
  • Hetzner "storage box" 1TB 5TB 10TB 20TB
  • Backblaze personal backup (unlimited. Price per machine)

Cheapest & Future (Decentralized)

  • Filecoin & IPFS (SIA, Storj,...)
    • some latency, not designed for small files / databases
    • might comes with 3 country locations by default / always

More:

  • OVH kimsufi 4 x 2TB (not very convenient & only when on sale) - but you can set you can set ZFS deduplication and compression
  • Rare Hetzner auctions with clunky things like 15 x 6TB

Small companies:

  • Servarica ZFS

New:

  • bulkvm (since june) (testing, but unfortunately didnt answer me anymore and why not just a little more ram?)

Gone:

  • Google drive unlimited

@servarica_hani can you give me any coupon or custom offer <= $2 / TB of secure storage? (under NDA if you will) - When you sell ZFS double paritiy, what host systems are that? Can i get triple parity too? And will the zfs pool span a big server, so that customers profit from deduplication?
( https://lowendbox.com/blog/got-burned-on-crypto-invest-in-a-servarica-cheap-vps-your-storage-grows-every-day/ by @raindog308 )

I watch your dynamic offers including some RAM and SSD but then it gets much more expensive.
Currently i only use ~10 TB of HDD storage + backup and only ~5 mbit average.


  1. Harddrives are mostly only for backups and log data, while for sorting & refining data, of course one needs SSD & RAM sometimes (and some always, for caching and ZFS). - Yet I still work only on 64GB DDR4 (as avaiable for $5 from OVH at times. No SSD. And 100ms latency to my storage...)
    QUESTION OF THE DAY:
    WHY IS THERE NO COMPETITIVE SSD HOST?
    The SSD hosting prices are crazy by now, when actually buying SSD servers starts around $20/TB. (a 2020 Server with 24 x 8 TB NVMe, might costs $4000 and power consumption of SSDs is minimal. So despite the performance the prices are similar to HDD now. SSD can be even cheaper considering wear down, electricity and no hardware failures. (The 95th quantile of load or write speed could be limited therefore for low budget plans (almost nobody will constantly use the crazy high speed) - Yet as of now, my non-profit projects still can't afford hosted SSDs (like commerce can usually) (but my project are held back to HDD speeds, as if it was 20 or 30 years ago.
    So of course i wonder to buy an SSD server, but why would i really have to? isn't that strange? Why does Nobodies offers such machine for an acceptable rent?
  • Contabo gives 2400GB storage VPS "SSD" starting at 12,6€ ("-10% sales"), but they have 1 star on google and reviews and terms that these can be lost anytime with no backup (no raid even?) .

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  • For those with parents or grandparents + fast internet:
    100€ Mini-PC with Intel N100 or some old laptop (practically free)
    50€ 4-Bay HDD enclosure on eBay or 100€ new
    100€ each refurbished 12TB drive on eBay from a reputable seller
    Buy everything using PayPal credit if you can't afford it in one go

    = 36TB + 12TB parity for 25€/month for 2 years, afterwards free forever

    • privacy + fast access, should you need large amounts of data quickly
      (Your parents could copy several TB of data onto an external drive and mail it to you)

    None of the cheap storage providers provide fast download/upload speeds, really sucks when transferring large amounts of data within a short period of time is necessary

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  • @archivist said: the prices are similar to HDD now

    @archivist said: SSD can be even cheaper considering wear down, electricity and no hardware failures

    Seems like a parallel dimension.

  • dosaidosai OG
    edited December 2024

    Hosthatch storage deal is $1.67 per TB.

  • edited December 2024

    @archivist said: When you sell ZFS double paritiy, what host systems are that?

    Those are SANs, however I do not recall further details.

    Also Servarica already has offers with the cost of terabyte below $2.50 per month. Not by much, but it's still less than $2.5/m.

    Let me know if you need links.

    StorageAMD EPYC VDS (ref) up to 4TB NVMe & 10TB SAN disk / Big HDD VPS (ref) from $2.42/TB/month

  • I went from Googles unlimited cloud (or may it was their 100TB offer) to uloz.to before switching to a selfhosted NAS. Uloz has been around for a while, I think they started as a filesharing site and switched to private cloud somewhere later. Their service used to be really good (may still is, cant tell).

    5 TB Storage $6.5/mo
    30 TB for data transfer/month

    25 TB Storage $16/mo
    150 TB for data transfer/month

    50 TB Storage $32/mo
    300 TB for data transfer/month

    100 TB Storage $64/mo
    600 TB for data transfer/month

  • @cayc said: uloz.to

    Do their paid plans allow mounting the volumes SMB/CIFS or otherwise?

  • @hornet said:

    @cayc said: uloz.to

    Do their paid plans allow mounting the volumes SMB/CIFS or otherwise?

    Rclone seems to support it
    https://rclone.org/ulozto/

  • Is mega still good now? They're offering 16tb at 25EUR/mon.

  • ZizzyDizzyMCZizzyDizzyMC Hosting Provider

    It's like I don't exist, really.

    Z Plus's default rates are $2.5/m/tb with our cheapest plan starting at $5 / month for 2TB volumes attached to VPS's. USA hosted, all equipment owned, arrays are 3x7 raidz-2 so there's enough IOPS to go around.

    Our stuff's built on enterprise hardware, and I come from a background of running long term archives. I'm a strong believer you get what you pay for, so no my service isn't ideal - but I've done the math to ensure it's sustainable.

    There will be a LES exclusive deal going up this Wednesday for 3.5TB of storage volume for $7/month from Z+

    I also offer slot hosting, just mail in a 20tb drive and I'll host it.

  • @fan said: Is mega still good now?

    I don't know how they are in other places, but it's hella slow here. I uploaded the same file to Hostbrr storagebox and Mega, and I was able to get files to the storagebox about 3 times quicker. the file was around 5 gigs or so. also might be because i am using the free storage.

    -

  • @ZizzyDizzyMC said:
    It's like I don't exist, really.

    Z Plus's default rates are $2.5/m/tb with our cheapest plan starting at $5 / month for 2TB volumes attached to VPS's. USA hosted, all equipment owned, arrays are 3x7 raidz-2 so there's enough IOPS to go around.

    Our stuff's built on enterprise hardware, and I come from a background of running long term archives. I'm a strong believer you get what you pay for, so no my service isn't ideal - but I've done the math to ensure it's sustainable.

    There will be a LES exclusive deal going up this Wednesday for 3.5TB of storage volume for $7/month from Z+

    I also offer slot hosting, just mail in a 20tb drive and I'll host it.

    You need better marketing. You spent time writing that post but failed to include a single link to your company website (which does not contain the word "plus" in the domain name at all making it especially difficult to locate). Also on your website your "About Us" page is well buried and could inspire more confidence in your company. Best wishes.

  • ZizzyDizzyMCZizzyDizzyMC Hosting Provider

    @Newyawker said:

    @ZizzyDizzyMC said:
    It's like I don't exist, really.

    Z Plus's default rates are $2.5/m/tb with our cheapest plan starting at $5 / month for 2TB volumes attached to VPS's. USA hosted, all equipment owned, arrays are 3x7 raidz-2 so there's enough IOPS to go around.

    Our stuff's built on enterprise hardware, and I come from a background of running long term archives. I'm a strong believer you get what you pay for, so no my service isn't ideal - but I've done the math to ensure it's sustainable.

    There will be a LES exclusive deal going up this Wednesday for 3.5TB of storage volume for $7/month from Z+

    I also offer slot hosting, just mail in a 20tb drive and I'll host it.

    You need better marketing. You spent time writing that post but failed to include a single link to your company website (which does not contain the word "plus" in the domain name at all making it especially difficult to locate). Also on your website your "About Us" page is well buried and could inspire more confidence in your company. Best wishes.

    This is a help thread, figured it's not a place for me to advertise. I only posted what I do because it's topic relevant, if it was a requests' thread I'd have dropped a link directly to the order page and a YABS. I appreciate the feedback though. I'm always open to suggestions, feel free to DM me or call me out if I need to change things on the site etc.

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  • HostBrrr had pretty good storage prices

  • @ZizzyDizzyMC said:
    There will be a LES exclusive deal going up this Wednesday for 3.5TB of storage volume for $7/month from Z+

    Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaas!

  • edited January 11

    Thank you!

    uloz.to ... been around for a while, I think they started as a filesharing site
    ..
    50 TB Storage $32/mo
    300 TB for data transfer/month

    thanks! @cayc

    • Will the latency be better than FileCoin?
    • isn't it too cheap to be sustainable? what storage-redundancy?
    • rclone looks good. So i can simply use sshfs or any distributed / HDFS?
    • Do these profit from deduplication btw? With a large or decentralized systems the percentage could be high, and their average effective income also >$1.5 TB/month?
    • (Any Benchmarks? VS. hetzner storage box, mega, backblaze, gdrive, etc?)

    100€ Mini-PC with Intel N100 or some old laptop (practically free)
    50€ 4-Bay HDD enclosure on eBay or 100€ new
    100€ each refurbished 12TB drive on eBay from a reputable seller
    Buy everything using PayPal credit if you can't afford it in one go

    = 36TB + 12TB parity for 25€/month for 2 years, afterwards free forever

    thanks @lowendspiritxdax, Used HDD might still be spooky/uncertain(?)
    n100 is 10nm ;) - Can i combine a Ryzen Z1 extreme (most efficient) with SAS HBA? ;) got a lucky 16 TB SSD

    None of the cheap storage providers provide fast download/upload speeds

    how much?

    @archivist said: the prices are similar to HDD now

    @archivist said: SSD can be even cheaper considering wear down, electricity and no hardware failures

    Seems like a parallel dimension.

    hi @tetech, got used to HDDs? ;)
    $10/TB or $25/TB are similar, because SSDs can break even in a year or two (given wear-down and electricity. 10+ times faster than conservative investments) - so it just is unnecessary torture to wait 50 times longer for my 4 x 2 HDDs at OVH Kimsufi for example and less economical for them not to give us that (why @OVHcloud_APAC ? not one 8TB SATA SSD or 2x2TB or anything.) ( Replacement is expensive work too. And my latest OVH HDDs came with 40000? operating hours.

    Fully using HDDs for random reads (linux load up to 280), mine broke every few years, i had to replace7 HDDs yet. 6? were new/unused at the start ) (while usually you wont not need much speed but maybe just twice of HDD,bBut for example to replace 10 x old 8 TB SSDs you might want least 20 x 4 TB HDD.
    While SSD consumes ~ 3.5 watt (but usually be 99% idle), while HDD can consume 12 watt and be the bottle neck

    just mail in a 20tb drive and I'll host it

    thanks @ZizzyDizzyMC how much do you host? can i get z-3? - 16TB SSD too (and 5070 TI) (and 4TB DDR3? ;) )

    Hosthatch storage deal is $1.67 per TB.

    hi @dosai, currenty $3.8+

    HostBrrr had pretty good storage prices

    hi @corbpie "Our budget storage starts at just $2.5 per TB", seems only when paying yearly

  • @lowendspiritxdax said: = 36TB + 12TB parity for 25€/month for 2 years, afterwards free forever

    What is the expected lifespan of these drives?

  • edited January 11

    What is the expected lifespan of these drives?

    (to be more complete, for pure backups you could have the HDD only run a few % of the time and be off mostly, so it would be cheaper for many years. Besides the latency to start a HDD is a few seconds. And Filecoin is $0.5/tb/month.)

  • edited January 11

    (i'd be updating my list above, yet not allowed to.)

  • FrankZFrankZ ModeratorOG
    edited January 11

    @archivist said:
    (i'd be updating my list above, yet not allowed to.)

    I expect that there is a time limit to edit the OP. If you want to update you can:
    1. Start a new thread with the updated info and ask me to merge the old and the new.
    2. Send me what you would like changed in the OP by DM. [preferably in code box] and I will modify the OP.
    3. Post what you want the new OP to be in a comment and I will edit the OP accordingly.

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  • ZizzyDizzyMCZizzyDizzyMC Hosting Provider

    "How much do I host" - As much as people are willing to pay for. Bandwidth is limited but storage space is limited only by my bank account...
    "Can I get 16TB SSD in raidz3?" Yes, how much are you willing to pay for me to purchase 7.68tb disks? Would probably be more efficient in a raid 10 though speed isn't a concern here. Z2 on 6-8 disks would be sufficient in most cases.
    4TB of DDR3 - not sure if that's possible, however I do have a system capable of 3TB of (slow) ddr4. For that bundle I could probably do $0.25/GB/M. I know you were probably joking, but I'll happily take a clients money and deliver the service they paid for.

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  • @ZizzyDizzyMC said:
    There will be a LES exclusive deal going up this Wednesday for 3.5TB of storage volume for $7/month from Z+

    Which Wednesday

  • ZizzyDizzyMCZizzyDizzyMC Hosting Provider

    @grasple said:

    @ZizzyDizzyMC said:
    There will be a LES exclusive deal going up this Wednesday for 3.5TB of storage volume for $7/month from Z+

    Which Wednesday

    Supposed to be last but I looked at my schedule and thought "I could have a good weekend if I didn't launch anything and minimized the risk of me breaking things"
    I had a good weekend. Working on setting up a slightly different storage infrastructure for future builds - wanted to test it to see if it will work as good / better as current. I'll still drop my offer, but eventually will have to migrate everyone to the new stuff if it works well.

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  • how much do you host?

    hi @ZizzyDizzyMC how many machines and locations?

    just mail in

    joking

    16TB SSD, 5070 TI and TB Ram is what i was sending you too , since i'm tired of HDDs-only at OVH and not yet feeling too high tech ambitious with my low $1XXX budget in 2025 (just almost.)

    4TB of DDR3 - not sure if that's possible,

    a 96 x 64GB DDR3 4U 4-CPU is almost beautiful e-waste now (CPUs will waste electricity)

    I expect that there is a time limit to edit the OP

    1 hour. Aren't you the forum? Les go wiki

  • host_chost_c Hosting Provider
    edited January 15

    @archivist said: SSD can be even cheaper considering wear down, electricity and no hardware failures.

    This is Wrong on so many levels, that I cannot even say.

    High Performance SSD will consume more power then a Magnetic SAS Drive.

    fail Rate on consumer drives used 24/7/365 is much higher then Enterprise drives used 24/7/365, especially after the first year.

    While Consumer SSD is cheap~ish, Enterprise is not and Enterprise drives with capacity of 6.4 TB or grater cost a fortune even on e-bay.

    Consumer SSD used in Enterprise/Hosting is like shooting your own balls, reliability wise. - This is a NoGo.

    A setup of 24 Enterprise drives in a raid60 is astronomical cost wise; Raid 10 on that would max out the 12GBPS SAS Link, will also give you enormous IOPS but it will cost a few K in USD to set up, I doubt that it would be feasible on the low-end-market for anyone.

    So spinning Rust is still the GO TO for Large Storage. Raid 10 can speed things up, but that will end up in a ~5USD / TB by today prices.

    EDIT:

    SSD VS HDD Power usage:

    6.4 TB SAS SSD

    18 TB SAS HDD

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  • ZizzyDizzyMCZizzyDizzyMC Hosting Provider

    @archivist said:

    how much do you host?

    hi @ZizzyDizzyMC how many machines and locations?

    just mail in

    joking

    16TB SSD, 5070 TI and TB Ram is what i was sending you too , since i'm tired of HDDs-only at OVH and not yet feeling too high tech ambitious with my low $1XXX budget in 2025 (just almost.)

    4TB of DDR3 - not sure if that's possible,


    a 96 x 64GB DDR3 4U 4-CPU is almost beautiful e-waste now (CPUs will waste electricity)

    I expect that there is a time limit to edit the OP

    1 hour. Aren't you the forum? Les go wiki

    I don't currently offer GPU colo, this may change in the future.
    I don't colo ram either, mostly because all of my machines use matched sets.

    If you wanted to colo all three I'd recommend setting up a 2U GPU server and seeking colo rates from providers.

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