How much NVMe is a decent amount on a VPS?
Hello,
For the past few weeks, we have been planning a massive hardware upgrade in which we will be upgrading our hardware in every location to brand new, owned hardware, powered by EPYC 7003 Milan series. As such, we have the option to tweak our plans in order to cater to what customers would like, as we have full control over the hardware configurations.
One of the main suggestions that we find from clients is that we should include more storage in our packages. Previously, this was inflexible due to renting some hardware in a bunch of our locations, but owned hardware changes this completely.
Currently, our packages will be structured like this:
4 vCPU Cores
16GB DDR4 Memory
240GB NVMe SSD
1 Gbit Shared (4TB)
$8/month
8 vCPU Cores
32GB DDR4 Memory
480GB NVMe SSD
1 Gbit Shared (8TB)
$16/month
16 vCPU Cores
64GB DDR4 Memory
1TB NVMe SSD
1 Gbit Shared (16TB)
$32/month
It is important to note that these packages are not out yet, this is just what is potentially planned and subject to major changes, hence this post. This is not a sales thread, none of these will be listed or available for a while, and subject to major change.
Our question is: Is this too little NVMe? How much do you use? Is this a reasonable amount?
The reason why we ask is that we could invest in more NVMe, but we're not sure if it's worth it. For example, we could do something like 384GB/786GB/1.5TB NVMe on our packages, or maybe even 500GB/1TB/2TB NVMe.
Would this increase make our plans more inticing to you?
We are also worried a bit more about the increase in bandwidth usage that would be likely from offering this much storage.
Thank you!
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For the price, it's more than enough, you can take a look your competitors though, $10 usually comes with less than 100GB NVMe. 240GB is a little overkill for $8 VPS. Maximum 100-120GB is more than enough.
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Every one of those is above the maximum price for a LES posting, which might suggest you're asking the wrong audience.
These offerings actually started out as an LES exclusive deal, which had lots of demand. It is technically above the maximum price, but it seems that LES is interested in somewhat higher priced but extremely good price to performance plans.
Previous LET thread: https://lowendspirit.com/discussion/4132/advin-servers-16gb-ram-8-month-restocked-september-9th-automatic-deployment/p8
It's now 1 year old, and has probably changed the course of Advin Servers, even if LES is a small percentage of our client base.
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While this is true, we want to go above and beyond what our competitors are offering. If people are heavily interested in the additional NVMe storage, then maybe it might be worth it to invest in it.
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4 vCPU Cores (AMD)
16GB DDR4 Memory
160GB NVMe SSD
10 Gbit Shared (10TB)
$6,66/month
perfect!
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Given that it's a complete transition to entirely new hardware and upstreams that we control, yes, it will improve significantly, regardless of how much NVMe makes it into the final plans.
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My feeling on NVMe capacity:
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2 dedicatedCPU Cores (AMD)
16GB DDR4 Memory
160GB NVMe SSD
10 Gbit Shared (10TB)
6,66/month - $66,66/year
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I am having what he is having.
Those numbers are in perfect balance.
The more the merrier.
What you have quotes seems to be perfect in my opinion.
I never understood what the target for this much of NVMEs is to be honest. I am happy with 20GB on smallest plans and maybe like 140-200 for the biggest one. I am just not a target for those kind of questions (-:
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The best spec is flexible: let the customer request CPU, RAM, NVMe separately.
Every customer can then get what's best for the use case.
My favorite compute platform allows these requests, where each request is mapped to one of 974 flavours on OpenStack:
https://github.com/fabric-testbed/InformationModel/raw/6e302e039b092b035274f3386977fb9fad8871c0/fim/slivers/data/instance_sizes.json
The logic is granting the smallest size that is not smaller than the request.
For example, a request for 5 cores 12GB RAM 80GB storage would receive c6.m16.d100 that has 6 cores 16GB RAM 100GB storage.
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More is always better of course, but I'd usually go for much lower.
I would think a lot of people either need very little storage (think 20gb) since use case is as a VPS or they need a lot of storage (TB+) for storing all their linux ISOs...
Do any LES providers actually do that?
@SMARTHOST sells a base plan with 1 core, 1 GB RAM, 10 GB NVMe, 0 GB HDD, priced at $2.95/month.
https://www.smarthost.net/index.php?rp=/store/virtual-private-servers-vps/vps-kvm-linux-nvme-ssd-2
They don't sell higher plans.
Instead, you can select additional quantities of each resource for $2 per unit.
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that's actually not cost effective.
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Another option could be to have a different combination of plan specs but all at the same price:
2c 8gb 100gb
4c 4gb 80gb
2c 4gb 120gb
^ rough example
The issue is that we are using pretty much completely standardized configurations across the board, so doing something like this isn't feasible.
It would be possible if we had a bunch of different configurations, i.e. some with less storage, less CPU, etc, but still is hard to do/sustain and wouldn't be ideal + adds a lot of complexity versus just having a single set of standard VPS plans.
It could also be possible if we did some sort of shared storage setup, but that's still something we're looking into and would have its own set of added complexity/problems.
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I try to reserve NVMe for things I need higher performance such as DBs and websites, so 20-250GB. For larger storage, a spinning disk would be fine.
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With the prices of SSDs getting as cheap as they are, spinning drives are quickly going to get obsolite. So doesn't make sense to use them on a server where you will use them for a while.
1 TB M.2 NVMe SSD is $50
1 TB HDD is $50 as well
Unless the server is coming with enterprise grade 12 or 20 TB HDDs, SSDs are the way to go.
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